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Secondary Ciphertext #1 and #2

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This is after the sequential filling of two 7×7 grids with Kryptos’ K4 and then applying SANBORN-SCHEIDT in a modular fashion.

The hope is that one of this potential secondary ciphertexts will yield some clue that will indicated we’ve removed the masking layer.

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-Kryptosfan


Tagged: k4, kryptos, possible 2nd layer

Possible Secondary K4 Ciphertexts #3 and #4

Possible Secondary Kryptos K4 Ciphertexts #5 and #6

Last one, possible secondary Kryptos ciphertexts #7 and #8

Frequency Analysis of Possible Secondary Kryptos Ciphertexts

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Thank you Simon Singh.  His Black Chamber is frequently useful for Kryptos efforts.

The previous posts generated some possible “secondary” ciphertexts after an attempt to remove an additive/subtractive superencipherment.  These are the frequency analysis histograms generated.

Secondary #1 (3 Q’s but no U’s?)

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Secondary #2 (Too many z’s and p’s to be plaintext?)

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Secondary #3 (5 Q’s and only 2 U’s?)

secondary 3

Secondary #4 (could be, it really could be.  Probably not because only 2 E’s and 4 Z’s)

secondary 4

Secondary #5 (4 Q’s and only 1 U)

secondary 5

Secondary #6 (6 Z’s?  Unless it has “zany crazy razzmatazz” then it’s not a message I want to read)

secondary 6

Secondary #7 (Maybe?  It’s a Scrabbler’s nightmare with 2 Q’s, 4 X’s and 4 Z’s)

secondary 7

Secondary #8 (4 Z’s but only 1 E?  hard to believe in plaintext frequencies)

secondary 8

So by even the simplest analysis of Q’s to U’s, some of these can be excluded.  Others are maybe but Z’s were all over most of these possible secondary ciphertexts of Kryptos.

Excluded as really unlikely: 1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 8

Maybe but probably not: 4, 7

So not to be too picky but I’m not super convinced by any of them.  The premise was that if you removed the additive then you’d have regular English frequencies.  The justification for this is that Scheidt said that they are masked and that once you remove the masking, you can begin work on the underlying cipher.  It’s possible that any of them could be true but not any more true than many other efforts made by any Kryptos fan.  My verdict is that none of them were close enough to plaintext English letter frequencies to make a convincing case towards going further.  Yeah, those letter frequencies are average but if yours aren’t even close then it’s time to move along.

I may have tried the wrong keywords or orientation.  I still like the idea of 7×14 or two 7×7 grids.  I just may be a little wrong on the masking technique still.

-Kryptosfan


Tagged: frequency analysis, k4, kryptos, secondary ciphertexts

Readdressing Kryptos K4 Rearrangement

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So, can we rearrange K4 to align the letters K, R, Y, P, T, O, and S as a way to rearrange the secondary ciphertext back to the original ciphertext without losing NYPVTT=BERLIN?  I looked to see where all the incidences of those letters were in an effort to try and see if there were different possible rearrangements.  Then I had a realization…

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Nope even though I still really, really want to do just that.

-Kryptosfan


Tagged: Berlin, k4, kryptos, NYPVTT, rearrangement

Double Letters as K4 Demarcations?

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So in a continued effort to try and find some new ideas about K4, I wondered about the possibility of using the double letters to split up the ciphertext of K4.  You could really use it for whatever but I was still beating the dead horse idea of superencipherment so that’s where I took it eventually.

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-Kryptosfan


Tagged: double letters, k4, kryptos, superencipherment

Subtracting Additives from Double Letter Divisions of K4


Subtracting Additives from Double Letter Divisions of K4 – Results

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Here’s what they look like separately.

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Just eyeballing them, it didn’t seem like anything went back to plain-text frequencies.

-Kryptosfan


Adding Subtractives from Double Letter Divisions of K4

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This is what it would look like if you had to add the keywords back in.

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I always put stuff online but sometimes I don’t even like to see these wall-of-text worksheets.  Keep in mind that even if it’s not super interesting that the hope is that maybe something will inspire someone, someday to solve K4.  That’s the end and these are the attempted means.

-Kryptosfan


Tagged: double letters, k4, kryptos, subtractive, superencipherment

Adding Subtractives from Double Letter Divisions of K4 – Results

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This is what the letter strings would look like if you added KRYPTOS, SANBORN and SCHEIDT back into K4 of Kryptos when it was split by double letters.

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I’m mostly looking at the number of Z’s, X’s and Q’s to gauge relative similarity to plaintext frequencies.  We can count by hand or run through a program but it should be pretty visible that these are not plaintext frequencies.

-Kryptosfan


Tagged: double letters, k4, kryptos, subtractive, superencipherment

Not Sure How to Tell When Masking Technique Has Been Removed in Kryptos K4

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Seriously, aside from seeing clearly plaintext letter frequencies, I’m not really sure what I’d analyze the strings of letters for exactly.

Silly dog, neither do I

Has anyone thought of ideas for how to tell if they’ve even gotten past the masking technique?  We need some kind of method for knowing if we’re on the right track, otherwise how can you tell if you’re making any progress?

-Kryptosfan


Tagged: I have no idea what I'm doing, kryptos

Krypto Fans, Where are we at?

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As we start to close out another year, where are we at with K4 and what have we learned?

I’ll start:

My recurring idea for K4 is a superencipherment (adding or subtracting a keyword mod26) on top of a substitution cipher.  I can think of keywords and different ideas for likely substitution methods but have so far had no luck.  Some times I’m not sure I’d know what to do with the primary ciphertext once I’d stripped the masking technique.

So what other ideas are out there?  Try and break it down to a simple sentence or two.  What do we think are the most likely candidates for possible methods used in K4?  We’re not trying to steal your secrets, keep it general but definitely share.

-Kryptosfan


Tagged: k4, kryptos, meet and greet

Kryptos “K4 Syndrome”

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Someone asked me to explain the term a little more in depth.

K4 Syndrome is a term first coined by Gary Phillips.  It is an attempt to describe a condition common to people who attempt to find a solution to the fourth part of Kryptos.  There is very likely an analogous psychological disease but we’ll update this definition the day we find out what the technical terms are for this behavior.

Symptoms include but are not limited to:

  • A very quick and obsessive fascination upon learning about Kryptos and the unsolved fourth piece
  • Upon the failure of the first initial efforts at solution, the patient continues past the point of failure in an effort to redeem the work they’ve already done.
  • Solution efforts get steadily more complicated and outlandish.
  • Communication with the patient or online postings by them become steadily more irrational and illogical.
  • After a certain period of time, the patient will either announce that they have the solution (even if it’s incomplete or gibberish) or seek validation from someone they perceive is an authority on the subject.
  • The patient can present their efforts in logical and well-presented ways despite the overall quality of the work.
  • The patient will feverishly seek colleagues or acolytes or any amount of collaboration.  The most common type of statement from this period is, “I’m so close to being done, I just need someone to help me finish.”
  • In the absence of validation or even in the face of convincing and definite contradiction of their methods, the patient will commonly persist in the same methods.
  • In the face of criticism, the patient will respond in kind or with an attempt at postmodern rationalizing.  For example, “You don’t really want it to be solved!” or “The answer to K4 is subjective therefore my answer is correct, for me.”
  • The patient will often spend time and effort disproportionate to their Kryptos efforts in an attempt to convince people that they are right or on the right track.
  • Solution efforts often include a re-hashing of cryptographic methods used in earlier sections of Kryptos.
  • Solution efforts are often predicated upon a clue or clues “hidden” in the cipher text or plain text of Kryptos.  These clues are often “overlooked” by everyone else.
  • The patient is often overly secretive about their methods.
  • The “methods” of the patient are often creative one-off inventions or elaborate many-step processes of manipulations of text/numbers.
  • It’s common for a patient’s clue to be a partial or incomplete word or coincidental arrangement of letters or words that have required apparently arbitrary manipulations, however extensive, to discover and that fail to produce significant results.
  • There is almost an ineffective social chameleon effect where someone finds some niche community, tries to blend in to the same interests, tries too hard for someone not willing to do more than superficial research to obtain familiarity with common terms, is left unfulfilled and moves on to the next fake obsession.
  • There are often fundamental misconceptions about what Kryptos and K4 actually are, the actual potential consequences of solution, who and what James Sanborn is, the actual involvement of the CIA and NSA and finally but most importantly about what cryptology and cryptanalysis actually involve.
  • In the absence of support, the patient will fizzle out and likely move on to other endeavors.  This isn’t a resolution of a type of behavior but a switch in focus or subject.

I won’t pretend that’s the final word on the subject but for anyone out there who has heard the term and been curious – that’s a passable overview.  It’s definitely a behavior that becomes more obvious after repetitive occurrences with different people and isn’t limited to Kryptos.  There is probably a type of subject or a type of community of hobbyists that draw people with this tendency but I won’t pretend to completely understand what those would be.

So let’s all keep each other as sane as possible and don’t forget: it’s supposed to be fun!

-Kryptosfan


Tagged: k4, K4 syndrome, kryptos

Kryptos F2P: Berlin Clock

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That’s what I get for setting setting up some posts in advance and taking some time off!

$50 for emails with Sanborn?

BERLINCLOCK

I’ll go dig around in the comments everyone has left but am not sure how this will help us any more than Berlin did.  My first thought is that it will be easy to get lost in trying to assign meaning to the words Berlin and Clock instead of trying to reverse the ciphering.

Added: Audio interview thanks to Franky (http://goo.gl/eQKDLC)

And the Clock in question:

Mengenlehreuhr

It would figure that someone like Sanborn would like Mengenlehreuhr…

Again, keep in mind that we were only to find the phrase “berlin clock” after decryption: attempting to use this particular clock to decipher K4 is not going to help.

The context with the other 97 letters will be certainly interesting in the end though.

-Kryptosfan

p.s.  I do think that this clock is supposed to help us understand a final message or experience (i.e. K5), I just don’t think it was meant to help solve K4.  If Kryptos is the progenitor of his artwork immediately following then we can see there is some relationship with the copperplate and illumination/shadows created by it with a light source.  The simplest method would be to look through the cutout letters but shining a light through seems more likely to me personally.


Tagged: Berlin, Clock, F2P, kryptos, Mengenlehreuhr, Western Union

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